topic Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S) in PCs & Accessories

Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M)

jthanassis — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:16:37 GMT

Dear all,
I have recently bought my new VAIO VGN-AR31M. This model comes with an internal tv tuner (AVerMedia Hybrid H/W MPEG Card,M115S (DVBT/NTSC/PAL/SECAM)).

I run Windows Vista Home Premium and I have a major problem the AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture. When I try to run an application that uses this driver a white screen appears instead of the expected tv program. To be more specific a white layer covers the tv screen.
The sound doesn't work either.

My card works great using the the Microsoft Media Center (this applications uses the driver (AVerMedia Hybrid H/W MPEG Card,M115S (DVBT/NTSC/PAL/SECAM) directly instead of DDShow).

So the problem occurs only when I use the AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (DDShow).

I've tested the AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture using both DScaler and Media Portal. The result is:
A white screen with no sound.

I've tried to change the contrast/brightness using the dscaler and thare is a temporary fix but the problem with the sound still exist.

I would appreciate any help..

thanks
thanassis

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M)

melbour — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:51:06 GMT

Hi,
i've same problem.
Have you found solution?

thnaks

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Suburbanlegend — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:54:25 GMT

At least you get a white screen. I have a AR41S which uses the same card. I want to use the S-Video-in but with the programs I use, the screen just remains blank.

What also worries me is the lack of audio-in too. There is an AV-in port but this is a Video port, not a line-in port. So in order to capture sound, you need to use the microphone port, but that just distorts the sound.

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

tonybeard — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:01:40 GMT

Welcome to the club,
check that the device drivers are engaged properly. Go into the device manager and if you have updated the drivers then disable and re enable. You find this in the video and sound controllers by opening up the tree and right clicking on the Avermidia Hybrid TV Tuner card. If that doesn't work then try a Vaio Hardware diagnostic in program files

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Suburbanlegend — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:37:47 GMT

DScaler seems to be the only way to get it working. However when you eventually get it up and running, there is a band of Vertical Distortion about a 1/3rd of the way in from the left hand side of the screen. This can be resolved by changing pixel width to 384 or anything below, but this degrades the quality of the picture.

Using Vaio Content Importer and choosing Analogue Device constantly shows a blue screen, whereas using a program like AmCap, you can see the picture for about a second and then it quickly fades to White. If you choose a higher Preview Output like 720x576, again you see the band of vertical distortion unless you change the Color Space/Compression to YV12. But of course you can only see the picture for a second before it fades to White.

Running Vaio Hardware Diagnostic crashes (The program itself) on the 3rd Video test. I don't think there's an actual diagnostic test for the TV part.

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Blencogo — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:28:56 GMT

Hi Suburbanlegend.

Do you have Click2DVD preinstalled on your AR41S (may be called Click2BD). This usually works straight out of the box and allows analogue capture, editing and the creation of a DVD/BD title Theme.

I have always found this adequate for converting old VHS analogue tapes to DVD format.

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Suburbanlegend — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:02:01 GMT

I've just tried it and got an error message:

No preview comes up either.

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Blencogo — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:39:29 GMT

That is a shame - really useful program for analogue video capture. Works fine on my AR31S although the program is different - it does not support BD - it's just Click2DVD.

You are using the latest version? I see there are two updates for the Click2DVD BD program here: -

http://support.vaio.sony.co.uk/downloads/updates/updates.asp?site=voe_en_GB_cons&c=0&s=VGN-AR&m=2679

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Suburbanlegend — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:52:03 GMT

It's really frustrating in all fairness. I'm running the latest version: 3.0.21.06110

What driver version are you using? I'm going to assume it's the same one: 3.3.23.95

What port do you use to import the audio too? The AV-in?

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Suburbanlegend — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:03:10 GMT

Has anyone had any luck with this?

To me it seems like a driver issue, but it's seems impossible to tell Sony this.

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

Blencogo — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:05:00 GMT

I'm using Click2DVD Version 2.6.00.11280 and I can capture from AV-in or S-Video-in.

My AverMedia card is using Ver 3.3.23.87

We have had a number of people with various models having analogue capture problems recently. I keep XP and Vaio Zone running on my desktop RC102 as this is the best machine I have ever had for analogue capture - real RCA connectors front and back!! Things have not been the same since Media Centre has been installed as this is basically a digital only solution.

Unfortunately, it does seem that no-one (including Sony) knows how to fix this problem.

There is a new knowledgebase entry under reference V00285

Solution V00285

Symptoms:

I am unable to capture video from an analogue device in Click to DVD.

Description:

To be able to capture video from an analogue video device in Click to DVD, your VAIO computer must be equipped with analogue input (composite A/V or s-Video) jacks and it must be running a preinstalled version of Windows XP Media Center or Windows Vista. 

However, analogue video capture in Click to DVD is unavailable with the following VAIO models even if the above-mentioned conditions are met: 

VGC-VA1 
VGC-RC202 
VGC-RC204 (Vista upgrade) 
VGN-AR11M/AR11MR/AR11S/AR11SR (Vista upgrade) 
VGN-AR21M/AR21MR/AR21S/AR21SR (Vista upgrade) 
VGX-XL100/XL201/XL202/XL301/XL302 
Solution:

Windows Movie Maker (Windows XP only) or Windows Media Center software are available as alternatives to capturing analogue video on the above-mentioned VAIO computers. 

Note that you would need an IR receiver cable (not supplied with all models) connected to your computer to capture video from a video input source in Windows Media Center.
For more details on Windows Movie Maker and Windows Media Center, please consult the Help files that come with these applications.

But this still implies that analogue capture via Click2DVD should be possible on all AR31 and AR41 models and also AR11 and AR21 models running XP.

Re: Problem with AVerMedia BDA Analog Capture (VGN-AR31M & AR41S)

billylol — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:29:44 GMT

I found the mistake.

First you need a program to sintonize the signal, but not a freeware as it won't work. Media centre, Corel video studio 12(recommended). It will capture the signal and then with dscaler or kastor tv you can see how there's no white screen. Now you can enjoy tv.
By the way, this cards have the problem you will need a deinterlacer filter, try with greedy 2 frame to reduce to maximum. now, if you want to capture the signal by corel video studio 12, it will have a delay of 1,5" I suppose, but if you want real time, this is the solution.
This has benn tried with LA-1 and AR-71 ZU