topic Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS... in Android TV

KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X Mas

Lassesu — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 07:31:32 GMT

Has KD-65XH9505. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X Master Audio all converted to Dolby Digital Plus or dts. Uses the built-in app media player (has also tried with other different apps) and hdmi arc for amplifiers that can handle these formats. Have checked the file to be supported. And in the manual, the TV must support the audio formats. Gets the audio formats if connected via hdmi from a computer.

Can't the built-in app play all formats?

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

royabrown2 — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:55:50 GMT

@Lassesu

A computer sending video and audio over HDMI to an HDMI In on the receiver is a different kettle of fish from audio coming over ARC on the back channel of an HDMI Out from the receiver.

I think you need eARC to send those formats intact. Do both the TV and the receiver support eARC, and have you got it enabled on both?

Also, you need an ‘HDMI cable with Ethernet’ to pass eARC. Is the HDMI cable you are using for (e)ARC of that type?

Much good and accurate information here:-

https://www.whathifi.com/advice/hdmi-arc-and-hdmi-earc-everything-you-need-to-know

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

Lassesu — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 11:23:27 GMT

I send via HDMI (has the right cable that works) eARC amplifier sony DN1080 with earc.

If I connect the computer via HDMI to the TV HDMI socket, the TV transmits all audio formats to the amplifier correctly via e-ARC. Passtrue. The few settings to make are made.
When using built-in App, it does not work. So why wonder if the built-in App supports all audio formats?

Does it work for you ? Or do you not use this feature?

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

royabrown2 — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 14:56:20 GMT

@Lassesu

Oh, I see what you are saying now. You aren’t talking about plugging the computer into the receiver, you are talking about plugging it into the TV, and getting the audio sent via eARC to the soundbar. That wasn’t exactly clear to me before 😢

So yes, the App then. I don’t have your TV though, and nor your receiver. Maybe use one of the Sony app’s competitors, like VLC, which you can get from the Google Android TV store, see if that is more capable?

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

Lassesu — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:29:17 GMT

It's just that the built-in media app or other type of VLC does not broadcast Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X Master Audio.
So my question is can not built-in media app or other apps not broadcast in all audio formats?

If you do not have this TV model, it is difficult to know if it works or not.

Thans for you help

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

royabrown2 — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 22:30:31 GMT

@Lassesu

What you say about this specific model may not be quite true, as there is likely to be a family of sets using the same media app. But with Android versions, and model year differences, it’s just not practical for me, a volunteer helper and a customer like you, to own more than a couple of Sony Android TVs, from more than a couple of model years.

So while I could lay out the widely applicable issues with ARC versus eARC, and so on, that isn’t your issue here, I now see.

And as I don’t know what formats the apps on your set are supposed to pass or not pass, and to what, I will have to pass on helping here, and hope someone with the same set, and a similarly capable receiver, comes along to help you further.

But I will nevertheless keep watching this thread with interest.

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

Lassesu — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 05:16:22 GMT

The manual says it supports all the audio formats I mentioned. But when using apps, not all of these audio formats are output. Hence the question.

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

HannahEd01 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:59:37 GMT

Hi, I don't think that your TV supports all of these formats either, checked the manual page 7 here: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/res/manuals/5013/c7e490b3b9709bca6371ef3c08f047da/50131671M.pdf

Also, supporting certain formats depends on many factors including the developers of the apps who decide if they even support it or not.

Being able to actually out put these formats as you said via HDMI, confirms only one thing.. the apps don't support them.

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

Lassesu — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:49:44 GMT

When I go to my TV page and download the manual, it says the following.
Confirm that you can pass through the following audio formats
7.1 channel linear PCM: 32 / 44.1 / 48 kHz 16 bits
Dolby Digital
Dolby Digital Plus
DTS
Dolby TrueHD
DTS-HD MA
Dolby Atmos
DTS: X Master Audio
MPEG2 - AAC / MPEG4 - AAC

https://helpguide.sony.net/tv/haep1/v1/sv/04-04_04.html?hl=dolby+digital

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

rooobb — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 19:15:46 GMT

If Google translate is right those are the audio codec you can passthrough the earc link not the one supported by the internal apps.....

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

Lassesu — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 20:29:37 GMT

Thanks
It looks like you say.
See also this in the manual.
"eARC mode"
If [Auto] is selected, high quality sound is used as the output sound when a device with eARC support is connected to an HDMI port labeled “eARC / ARC”.

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

royabrown2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 20:48:17 GMT

Hi @HannahEd01

Are you getting things wrong, just to convince me you are not a bot? 😛

That page says:-

Audio:
In eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) mode
Refer to the Help Guide for details. Except eARC mode
5.1 channel linear PCM: 32/44.1/48/88.2/ 96/176.4/192 kHz 16/20/24 bits, Dolby Audio, Dolby Atmos, DTS
eARC/ARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel/ Audio Return Channel) (HDMI IN 3 only)*5
In eARC mode
Refer to the Help Guide for details.
In ARC mode
Two channel linear PCM: 48 kHz 16 bits, Dolby Audio, Dolby Atmos, DTS
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (OPTICAL)
Digital optical jack (Two channel linear PCM:

And as we are talking eARC here, it’s all ‘Refer to the Help,Guide for details’.

i.e. nothing substantive about formats here at all 😢

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

royabrown2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 20:51:18 GMT

@Lassesu

That link is in Furrin 😢

Further though is that you are using Bitstream, not PCM, for passthrough, aren’t you?

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

Lassesu — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:31:37 GMT

what do you mean by format?
passthrough does not use pcm so clearly
sony on all TVs does not release Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X Master Audio via any app. It is Sony that in its limitations has chosen to do this as it looks. Have checked the same manuals on different sony tvs and everyone says the same thing in the manual.

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS...

Lassesu — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:09:02 GMT

Tested the same files on an Nvidia Shield TV with Android version 9.0. Used VLC and KODI. Both worked perfectly transmitted all audio formats perfectly.

Then went to test the same files on the TV Android ver 9.0. Installed VLC and KODI made the same settings as above. It does not work to get everyone out of sound. So Sony seems to have chosen blockers so we do not get all the audio formats.

Re: KD-65XH9505 support for different audio formats. Does not output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X

Lassesu — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:19:59 GMT

Those of you who have a sound loop or amplifier that can handle the audio formats Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DTS: X Master Audio.
Can test if you get these formats when the file is shared through the network or saved on a USB hard drive.
Own XH9505